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19th-May-2008 05:11 pm
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So, the rumor mill has it that Iris Print has finally closed up shop.

Something I didn’t mention in my Yaoi Press report was that Yamila Abraham, when asked about publishing yaoi novels as well as comics, said that it tends not to work very well, and pointed to Iris Print as an example– saying that the company has actually closed up shop.

-A Geek By Any Other Name

Well isn’t that swell? Iris Print closes up shop and doesn’t bother to tell the creators they have under contract. Nice. So what about our books? What about our titles? :/ I don’t know what to say about this, except that I’m truly disappointed. I’m beyond pissed; I wonder though, where is Amazon getting their re-stock if Iris is out of business? What about all those people who paid pre-orders for Queer Magic? It would’ve been nice to know if she was filing for bankruptcy.

-Tina Anderson

Now, if this is true, not only are we going to be cranky for the authors and artists who are cheated out of their royalties, BUT let's not forget all of the readers who put in for pre-orders of Queer Magic as part of the last ditch effort to save Iris Print.
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20th-May-2008 08:44 am (UTC)
It does, but sadly, until Ms. Lynch gives us an update it's all conjecture.
I understand wanting to support her, hell, I want nothing but the best for her and her authors, but right now it's looking pretty shady.

A lot of this mess could be avoided if she would answer e-mails and update the people as to the status of pre-orders.

Look. I know it's not fun, but even telling people 'Hey, things are still sucking, but we hope to have the book out in June' would be better than the radio silence we're hearing now.
20th-May-2008 01:06 pm (UTC) - Excuse Me?
Mrs Lynch, contraty to the idea posted by Ms Anderson, is not filing for bankruptcy. She has absolved herself and her husband of the debt as wholely as they are capable, returned to her previous job (in a different firm) as a transliterative computer support technician, and is trying to get back to her love of the art--both writing, and publishing.

First off, I said it's in all likely-hood she might file, since she hasn't contacted anyone. As I did state at my blog [and you did ignore, obviously] my hopes are too the contrary.

Also, Yamila Abraham is the one who pretty much announced that Iris had closed it's doors to someone in mainstream manga-at a recent convention. This is what prompted blog posts like mine and those of RW Day. I don't appreciate your tone that somehow I'm [I wont say we, because you're not calling out Ms. Day by name] are blogging about this--just to shit-stir. Please don't presume to tell us, as creators, that we should sit around for another 3 months while Ms. Lynch doesn't contact us. Our contracts are pretty clear - http://rwday.wordpress.com/ as pointed out by Ms. Day, we are to be sent some form of royalty statement or payment 30 days after the quarter ends. My rep has sent 3 emails, Becky has send countless--and plains to send a registered letter--but when I did that the last time [yes, that link you show is PRETTY DATED!] it led to nothing.

I appreciate you coming here as her friend, but with all due respect-- this isn't personal, this is business. Not hearing from your publisher when you're supposed to: violation of contract.
20th-May-2008 01:13 pm (UTC) - Re: Excuse Me?
Sorry for the typos--I'm truly angry here, and I shouldn't be. I don;t think I'm attacked, but then again--I don't like the idea that all of us discussing this behavior is wrong.

I just noticed something else-- sumthinlikhuman, this has nothing to do with the January 11 situation you keep bringing up. That was another mess caused by her not contacting anyone; this is a new incident

I can't speak for the authors--I wasn't of age to publish with her when we were doing the editing for Queer Magic--so I'm not sure how the royalty issue is being resolved.

According to some of the authors in Queer Magic, http://erastes.livejournal.com/239172.html?thread=3386180#t3386180

They don't get paid until the book sees print.
20th-May-2008 05:14 pm (UTC) - Re: Excuse Me?
I don't appreciate your tone that somehow I'm [I wont say we, because you're not calling out Ms. Day by name] are blogging about this--just to shit-stir. Please don't presume to tell us, as creators, that we should sit around for another 3 months while Ms. Lynch doesn't contact us.

What she says. I don't appreciate it either. I thought long and hard before I went public with any of this. Last time it happened (are we seeing a pattern?) I never went public, trying to preserve my professional relationship with Kellie. But professionalism goes in both directions. If she won't answer our private emails, maybe she'll respond to blog posts. I don't know what else to do, short of getting on a plane, flying to California and banging on her door.
20th-May-2008 01:32 pm (UTC)
Wow. There are so many things wrong with this post that I'm flabbergasted. Let us hope that it is the fact that you are young and new to publishing that explains much of this.

To begin with, the fact that Kellie is not answering any communication from her authors and that all information regarding the viability of her company comes second hand, via Yamila Abraham and now you, yourself, in the role of self-appointed defender of the realm, speaks volumes. Should we now expect an appearance from Kellie's husband? Communication is a vital part of running a business, and this is NOT the first time Kellie has pulled this disappearing act.

If Iris is on hiatus, Kellie has an obligation to announce this. One statement a quarter, despite your clear opinion to the contrary, does not serve as communication.

Absolving oneself of Iris's debt would involve AT A MINIMUM issuing royalty statements to authors, and payment of any funds due. This has NOT happened. This is inappropriate.

Bear in mind that these obligations exist regardless of whether Kellie's in love with writing and/or publishing. This is a professional obligation. That's why there are contracts. Contracts protect BOTH parties, not just the publisher.

Now, and here's the bit where you shouldn't be online without a minder, wasn't of age to publish with her when we were doing the editing for Queer Magic !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! So you were working on pornographic material when you were underage? And you're brilliant enough to reveal this online? I am sure Kellie will be thrilled to have that aspect of her business practices revealed to the world. This is yet another example of her lack of due diligence: were you around when it was revealed that the COVER of When Worlds Collide was a blatant tracing of another artist's work? There are certain fundamental obligations inherent in publishing: having underaged individuals work on adult oriented material is just dumb, dumb, dumb no matter what way you slice it.

Kellie needs to make a statement. It is Kellie's company, and it is Kellie who has obligations to the authors involved. Also, readers who pre-ordered books surely didn't give away their money for an open-ended period of time: they're entitled to a product in a reasonable amount of time or a refund.

I'd also be very curious about these printing issues: it's funny how hundreds of thousands of other books have come to press in the time it's been impossible for Kellie to pull that off.

20th-May-2008 02:45 pm (UTC)
I just want to point out that I was contacted about the When Worlds Collide cover art fiasco. Basically Kellie had no idea that the artist she hired did what he did until it was outed by the Gay Comics List curator at the 'copied artists' web forum. If I recall, Kellie did go there and apologize and offer some form of amends. (^_^) Still, I know you're more active in 'gay fiction' then 'yaoi', and I remember there was some snark leveled at creators over the WWC cover--so bringing it up here is justified, I don't think you're wanking.

But... CB, please keep in mind that sumthinlikhuman still might be a minor [I don't know, haven't checked her LJ info] so watch the exclamation points. I don't want you getting into trouble for 'yelling' at someone's kid. 0_0.
20th-May-2008 02:49 pm (UTC) - True
You are right. If [Bad username: sumthinklikhuman] is a minor, she/he should be exempt from professional level judgement.

However, it stands to reason that one who is underaged does not belong in a quasi/semi or other professional capacity at a publishing company specializing in adult oriented fiction. And quite frankly, it takes a great deal of willing-suspension-of-disbelief on my part to believe that a high school student is the ideal choice to edit anyone's work. Kellie, of all people, shows remarkably poor judgement in this decision.
20th-May-2008 05:08 pm (UTC)
I appreciate that you want to defend your friend, but I don't think you're seeing the bigger picture. Here's the bottom line - publishing is a business. The relationship between author and publisher is a legally binding contract, and currently, by not paying royalties as the contract stipulates, Kellie is in breach of that contract. If she is truly shutting down IP, even temporarily, she has a professional and moral obligation to contact her authors directly and let us know that, discuss with us how the situation will impact us so we can make informed decisions about how to protect our interests. She hasn't done that. She hasn't even answered our emails.

I hope that, since the 11th of January (when that blog was posted), Mrs Lynch was able to get in contact with all of her publishing authors and work through the situation,

No. She hasn't.

And I don't know what you mean by 'absolve herself of the debt.' You can't absolve yourself of debt. You can pay it off, file for bankruptcy to escape it, or just ignore it and take the consequences. Your creditors can absolve you, but you can't absolve yourself. Considering some of that debt is to Tina and me, I can say with certainty that at least our portion of the debt has not been absolved at this time.
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